The Kardashian clan is known for being bold and boisterous, but what are they really like behind closed doors?
We sat down with former Kardashian Nanny for this exclusive interview, where she talks about all things Kardashian; how Sylvester Stallone rates as a lover; and whether TJ Jackson is the best person to be looking over Prince, Paris and Blanket.
Plus, she also delves into the inner dynamics of Kris and Bruce Jenner’s relationship and why Khloe is her favorite out of the trio of girls.
Celebzter: How did it come that you worked with the Kardashians?
Pam Behan: When I moved to Los Angeles, I signed up with a nanny agency in Beverly Hills. They set up an interview with Linda Jenner, Bruce Jenner’s ex-wife. She hired me and I took care of their two boys for over 2 years. When Bruce met Kris, he asked me to move over to be the nanny for her four kids. My first day was the wedding day of Bruce and Kris in April 1991. And ever since that day I have been keeping up with the Kardashians (laughs).
Celebzter: How different are they in real-life as opposed to what we see on TV and at events?
Pam Behan:Well obviously the children were quite little back when I knew them, and now they’re full-grown adults. Sometimes I’m a bit shocked by their lifestyle and language, but other than that, I see the same personalities that I saw back then. As far as the dynamics of the whole family, I think what you see on TV is pretty similar to what I experienced. It’s a big family, and there are a lot of very strong personalities, so it was always kinda loud and chaotic. But always laughter and always love too.
Celebzter: It’s quite evident that Kris is the boss in the family, is she really as controlling in real-life as what we see on the small screen?
Pam Behan:That’s a tough question. In the book [“Malibu Nanny: The True Adventures of the former Kardashian Nanny”], I share some stories about what it was like working for Kris, who had a no-excuses policy. She operates with an “I can” and “I will” policy. I believe that’s why she has been so successful. For the record before we sent out the book to put online as a free download, my publicist Jonathan Hay emailed Kris with the book attached and let her know that if she had any problems with anything in the book to let us know and we would remove anything she wanted.
Celebzter: What is Bruce really like?
Pam Behan:He’s a great guy. Easy going, talkative, caring, very positive. In my opinion, what you see is what you get. I love Bruce like a brother.
Celebzter: Do you believe Kris and Bruce are totally in love? And does he ever get sick of the spotlight?
Pam Behan:Well I would only be guessing if I answered either of those questions. But, I’ll take a stab at it. What I can tell you is that he had dated a number of women before he met Kris, but I never saw him as excited about someone as he was when he met Kris. They became inseparable very quickly, and married shortly thereafter. So back then, yes, they wherein love. Since I haven’t been around them over the last 15 years, I can’t answer about their current relationship. As for the other question, if Bruce was someone who didn’t like the spotlight, then I suspect he wouldn’t have attempted to win a gold medal, nor would he have pursued a career as a motivational speaker where he’s always on stage.
Celebzter: Out of all the three girls, you were closest to Khloe, why was that?
Pam Behan:Because she was young, and at an impressionable age. Kourtney and Kim were older and more independent, so I didn’t spend as much time with them. Most of my time was spent with Khloe and Robert, and since Khloe was a girl, I suppose she bonded with me the most. She always wanted to be doing whatever I was doing. She was my little sidekick and I miss her so much. If you are reading this Khloe please reach out to me at 310.402.6949. Seriously, please call me… I’d love to talk to you.
Celebzter: You worked with the family for years, how would you describe them?
Pam Behan: They were fun, loud, crazy, spontaneous, loving and supportive of each other. It was truly some of the best times of my life.
Celebzter: How did Sylvester Stallone rate as a lover?
Pam Behan: Oh my goodness! I do not kiss and tell (laughs). What I will tell you is that it was definitely surreal to date someone who I’d had a major crush on throughout Jr High and High School. All my close friends could tell you – I was totally obsessed with him. So, it felt like a dream. Still hard to believe it happened. My heart goes out to him with what happened to his son. He was always talking about Sage.
Pam Behan: Well, I was pretty spoiled myself. I got to drive their nice vehicles, carry their credit cards, shop all day for them using their money, etc. However, I was a little taken back one day when Bruce [Jenner] approached me and asked, “You do use the self-service pumps at the gas station, right Pam?” To be honest, I did sometimes use the full-service pumps. I always thought to myself, is it really that big of a deal? It was only about twenty cents more per gallon, which I didn’t think should be a big deal to them considering the amount of money they spent on various other things — I elaborate a bit more about that in my book. But in their household, the full-service pumps were a big no-no. So from that point on, I acknowledged his request and always used the self-service pumps — except for on this one rainy day.
It was pouring down rain and my gas tank — well, rather their gas tank — was on empty. I thought to myself, Well, it should be okay to use the full-service just today, but then I’ll go back to using the self-service pumps from here on out.
As I handed the Jenner’s credit card through the car window to the attendant, I touched up my makeup and fluffed my hair in the mirror for a few minutes, feeling rather privileged and fancy. Suddenly, I glanced out the window and I couldn’t believe who was standing there, peering at me through the pouring rain while pumping gas into his shiny new, red NSX. It was none other than Mr. Bruce Jenner, owner of the vehicle to which my dry bum sat within while an attendant fueled it up. As his eyes caught mine, I sunk into my seat in humiliation. Sure, it might have only cost them a few extra dollars, but it was against the rules and I was caught red-handed.
I waved reluctantly and gave him a half-smile as I pulled away from the station. Moments later as we both arrived at home, I pleaded with him, “Please, Bruce, don’t say a word! I already know. Bad Pam! No more full-service!” He just gave me one of those looks-to-kill and said nothing. He never told on me either(laughs).
And for the record, yes, Bruce Jenner is the kind of man who pumps his own gas in the pouring rain.
Celebzter: Last few questions, in light of TJ Jackson having temporary custody over the three kids, and knowing him from when he dated Kim, how would you describe him as a person and is he a good role model for the kids given everything they have been through?
Pam Behan:I can only speak for the TJ that I knew many years ago. That TJ was a polite, well-mannered gentleman. However, he was very young at the time so it’s difficult for me to speak on what his parenting skills are. Time can change both people and circumstances. I want to believe he is still a wonderful person, but quite honestly, I don’t know either way. I would say the fact that the Jackson children chose him to be their temporary guardian during this time speaks volumes about how much they trust him. But like I said, I do not know for sure.
Celebzter: Who would the perfect man for Kim be — is it Kanye?
Pam Behan: Believe me, I wish I knew. However, only Kim knows the answer to that question. If it is Kanye, then I hope she takes her time before walking down the aisle again. That’s only my opinion, but if it is going to be forever then there is no need to hurry. Take one day at a time and enjoy every minute you can. I would hate to see her make another mistake…especially with the entire world watching her every move.
Celebzter: Lastly, what are your plans for the future?
Pam Behan: My main priority in life is to spend as much time as possible with my son, and be the best mother I can be. And hopefully pursue more in the area of music, which has always been one of my passions.
[photo credit: Pam Behan/JH Publicity LLC]